|This is what I think of your logic.|
The rebuttals on the part of the LGBT posters that took offence to him taking offence to being lumped into a world that hates gays on principle prompted this post.
Now before we get into this, let me point out we have gays in our lives, be they friends, family, whatever. No, my brother and I don't know what it is to be gay, and we don't pretend to.
What I do know is this: if you are going to take offence at being lumped into a stereotype and discriminated against for it, lumping us into one and taking shots at us for it is not going to sell your argument because, as you so richly pointed out in the first place, it's a shitty argument.
Here are some of the gems which have set me off and brought about this post:
"Your opinion is less relevant because you don't know what it's like..."
Nowhere did he claim that his opinion was more relevant. Nowhere did he claim to know what it was like to be gay. All he said was that, in his "less relevant" opinion, not the whole world was a bunch of hate filled small minded people and please don't lump him in with that shit.
Also, when you come to us wanting donations for your rec centre, or your legal fights, or whatever it is you need money for, you might want to clarify just how relevant our opinions are so that we can make correlating donations.
I mean, if it doesn't matter to you what I think, and how I present my opinions on the subject to my children, to my colleagues, to my friends, then why should I give you my hard earned money exactly? Why should I stand out in the street and wave and cheer as your parade passes by since my opinion is less relevant and I cannot understand?
And if my opinion is less relevant, why do I need to help you stand up for yourself? You've made it clear you really don't care what I think, that my opinion is lacking somehow. So why am I supposed to help you with your fight if you don't really give a damn outside of how much money you can get from me?
I am blessed enough to live in one of the freest countries on the planet. I do take that for granted far too often. And I am also blessed enough to have within my immediate and extended social circle a lot of people who would also object to being lumped into the world you are taking offence to, and yet somehow are fighting to be a part of.
At the end of the day I will never walk in your shoes. That much is true. But do not presume to walk in mine by lumping me in with an entire world that hates gays on principle.
"I mean this in the most respectful way possible. I think that white men in their forties have been offering their opinions on minorities for far too long."
Here's the thing though; there is no respect whatsoever in that statement. It basically reads "he's white, he's in his forties, hence he is the stereotypical white power overlord who still runs the planet. Therefore, he needs to shut the hell up."
Let me tell you what my brother runs. It's his car and his postal route and his own home. That's about it unless you are counting the GTA5 crew on the Rockstar network (but I suspect you're not).
Since white males are still predominantly the ones running the planet (we'll ignore Barack Obama and Margaret Thatcher or Cathy Dunderdale but whatever), shouldn't you welcome the opinions of the enlightened few instead of smacking them down? Or do you expect the entire population of white males in their forties to just wake up suddenly as a collective one day and decide "hey, we were wrong all along"?
People like my brother, men whose white male children who will also grow up to one day be forty, also are making sure that they don't grow up to be the kind of men who discriminate against others for ANY reason. You need these guys on your side if you want to effect long lasting change, and that means he can and will sway others with his "less relevant" opinions.
It's a ripple in a pond.
Telling him to stop offering his opinions when they are steadfastly in your favour is not going to help you. Yes, obviously there are men who will raise their children wrong, to hate and discriminate. My brother is not one of them and nor will his son be.
So maybe you want to rethink the idea of picking and choosing where your support comes from.
White about white women in their forties? No good? Is there a set list of people whose opinions you consider worthy of sharing?
Please feel free to clarify that in the comment section below so that I, a white woman in her forties, will not offend you by offering my "less relevant" opinions anymore. Also, I won't bother supporting you anymore either, since it seems to offend you so.
"With older people set in their old fashioned views dying off, the world is going to become a more welcoming/accepting place."
I'm not sure what planet you live on that getting rid of old people will make it a magically happy kumbaya singing wonderland, but it's damned well not Earth.
I live with a 91 year old woman who basically loves everybody. Does she care to see two men or two women making out? Not really. She doesn't care to see a heterosexual couple do it either for that matter.
She believes such intimacy belongs between two people and need not be put on public display. It's hard to argue that logic.
But if you want to talk about discrimination to the elderly you can talk to the hand.
The elderly get hosed by the federal and provincial governments on almost every possible financial level. My mother as a caregiver, because she is a direct relative, does not qualify for certain financial aid programs. It's cheaper to hire a stranger to look after her mother, but she doesn't.
My grandmother and others like her know the value of a hard day's work. They've made their share of mistakes but they also got a lot right.
For a long time she was a woman without a right to vote, with little to no say in how her finances were run, with no rights to her own home. And yet somehow she raised her children in a life full of hardship before electricity and hot water and luxury soaker tub bathrooms.
I was at my grandmother's 90th birthday party where a hundred people showed up for no other reason than they loved her and appreciated having her in their lives. She can tell you stories that would make you sit and listen in wonder, amaze you, or bring you to tears.
The elderly are the keepers of our memories, the reminders of the costs we have paid dearly on countless fronts, not only on the battlefields but in the homes and the workplace.
In fifty years when you are elderly and someone writes that the world will be so much better with you and your old fashioned views dead and gone, remember this moment. Remember the battles you fought for equality and acceptance.
And remember how you wished your predecessors dead, those same predecessors that fought their own battles also, so that the world might better suit you.
The world is a more wonderful place with women like my grandmother in it. The world is a more wonderful place with the elderly in it.
Whereas you, in my "less relevant opinion", are currently unfit to tie her shoelaces or break bread at her table.
You offend me all right, but it has nothing to do with your sexual orientation.